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how is delighted to see an interview with direct quotes from mitch mcconnell appeared he said we're not raising taxes to avoid the sequester appeared out rather have the savings over a decade -- from mitch mcconnell. he said we're not raising taxes to avoid sequester. i would rather have the savings over a decade. i am not -- i would rather have the sequester them lose the savings. i would rather have a different ly structured sequester. we're not giving up savings. we either had the sequester or reconstruction it differently. ,hat i think you're going to do at the one thing he could have a compromise on, maybe the only thing you have a real compromise like theoneis republicans savings for the sequestered but they do not want to come out. the democrats theoretically would like the sequesters savings but they do not want to have domestic discretionary. they would both like to in the sequestered but republicans will not do it in a way that allows spending to go higher rather than lower. you can take that all out of entitlements. you could delay certain entitlements in the future. r

heard from republicans -- it is like mitch mcconnell who said his job was to see that obama is never reelected. so, he has an edge year. he does have leverage. but it will be a long haul. he does need partners. >> rich mcconnell is on record as saying that -- mitch mcconnell is on the records sayi thahe knows that the election makes some people think that the republicans are going to roll over. that does not sound like compromise. >> your definition of compromise is rolling over and excepting higher tax rates. that is the democratic definition of compromise. i would never suggest bias. the president ran -- i will say it -- the most negative campaign. he did not run on his record. he could not. he did not run on a program. there is one thing he got a mandate for, and he now has a mandate to raise the top tax rate on two percent of the population by four. ? that is the smallest mandate in american history. >> can i say something? >> no, not until i am done. this is true. i am not going to get into this for meridian -- >what the republicans will agree to come up brainer came out with --

or belief that the other side, that would be mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, or john boehner, the speaker, are up to a big deal? >> i don't know if he has confidence in boehner and mitch mcconnell but he certainly has confidence at this point in the idea that the american people, the majority of the american people, back the whole idea of tax increases on the wealthy. the white house said pre-election polling and postelection exit polls show that more americans -- chris: how do you put together -- everybody watching has an opinion on that. the very wealthy should pay their share at least and not avoid it. but they also seem to applaud every time either candidate on either said said we got to work together. >> the white house dream would be to see boehner peel away some republicans and work with the democrats in the house on the deal. that's what they want. chris: will paul ryan join john boehner, the speaker, in trying to work out a deal? or he will be a rejectionist and set up the big rebel flag and say i'm going to be the die-hard? >> no one knows the answer to that questio

't have to run for re-election? and one of the other key players is mitch mcconnell. what is the dynamic there do you think? >> i think the president, first time i'm talking about the mutual background on capitol hill, the president may be at a point where he has gotten obama care, which is clearly now not going to be repealed, he has created a bigger government in the direction he wants to go in. and he may want to consolidate and having lived through two solid years of not getting anything done, he may decide he doesn't want to spend four years. the odds are very high the republicans will keep the house in 2014. does he really want four years of gridlock or does he want to take a big step, which is a gamble, open the door, sit down and have genuine conversations? and frankly, as he appoints some new cabinet officers, find some republicans that could serve in the cabinet, in a serious way, that would join ray la hood. he has really been sort of isolated as the secretary of transportation. >> we've seen some comments from both sides and yes we want to try to come up with an agreement, we

of the willingness to work with drawing lines in the dust, we get a different phenomenon. mitch mcconnell took a much harder line, and it really was he has a mandate for his failed policies. that is not what this election was about. anything that happens now asked to meet the approval of the house republicans, or it is not going anywhere. that i think is in many ways also a false bluster, because what we see going on in the senate is riling change that mcconnell does not necessarily control, which is 48 senators from across the board working with the fix that debt coalition and the business community to come up with a simpson-bowles template. there will not be a plan. >> what you see is the scenario for the link up? >> especially on the fiscal cliff? >> you will not see much difference between this on this. mort, i think it is impossible to write serious law during a lame duck that would constitute an agreement with any substance other than, and something set up behind them once again, to go into the fact if the next congress does not actually produce them. but the idea that they could do something t

' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> speaker john boehner and minority leader mitch mcconnell, good cop/bad cop and who's who. we will explain after the break. president obama is getting set to give his news conference since re-election. stay tuned to msnbc for the president's remarks live from the white house just ahead. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> it's official, nancy pelosi isn't going anywhere. the first female ever to lead a political party in congress announced a few hours ago she would respect the will of her caucus and return as house minority leader. >> my colleagues made it very clear, in fact i think they must have coordinated with each other, because their message was clear, don't even think of leaving. >> that's a mandate. pelosi and senate majority leader harry reid will be facing off against the same republican tandem from the

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the leaders that i grew up with, such as howard baker of tennessee and mitch mcconnell of kentucky today is like the grand canyon. there is simply no comparison. host: was there a particular event that signals the end of what you call the last great senate? guest: there were stages. what i call the great senate of the 1960's and 1970's ended when president reagan was elected. he came in with a lot of republican neophytes and sloughed out a lot of the great senators. -- knocked out a lot of the great senators. the story was not done yet. in the 1980's, the senate came out and functions pretty much like the senate did. in the 1990's, newt gingrich and his senate counterparts took over the congress in 1994. they started straight down. i think the senate has been in a 20-year decline, which i think is about to end. host: back to the phones for our discussion with ira shapiro, author of the last great senate. from our line for democrats, you are on "washington journal." caller: i am calling because i was glad about the outcome of the election. it is time we do something different. the republi

of what professor dyson has just said, how does the president win over mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, speaker boehner, who have already openly said, no increases in tax rates? >> well, you have to splinter off some republicans, in the senate it will be easier because you just have to get to 60. you might pass the december 31st deadline where you have a few more democrats in the senate. but the problem is always going to be the house. i think there may be a bargain in the -- in the side of coming to republicans and saying, here are cuts. but the price of those cuts will be that 2%. republicans will face a very tough choice in just a very short time. are they the ones that are going to be responsible for giving 98% of americans tax hikes? do the republicans want to be known as the party that raised your taxes for everybody but 2%? >> right. and i think, martin -- >> so, the 2% solution may be a noose around the republicans' neck. >> i think the republicans have little leverage. not just for that reason but a couple of other reasons. if you consider the fact that taxes are at 15% of gdp, spendin

in the senate mitch mcconnell talk tough on the senate floor today. >> if the president is really serious about solving current crises and avoiding future ones, he has it to step up and lead. >> mcconnell was so bold when he was confronted by reporters. he sat silently during a photo op with new republican senators. >> senator mcconnell, are you willing to compromise? >> come on guys, go. come on. >> can you not push me and everybody else? >> yep. >> mcconnell is not responding because he doesn't have an answer. democrats won decisively last week. they protected 23 seats and picked up two more. plus, mcconnell's plan is exactly what the american people voted against. >> the best way forward, the way that will lead to jobs and growth, a smaller deficit and fewer fights is to keep everybody's tax rights where they are for now. figure out a way to avoid the automatic defense cuts scheduled to hit at the end of the year without cutting a penny less than we promised. and committing to the kind of comprehensive tax and entitlement reform that we all claim we want. >> according to mitch mcconnell the

have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pressure, but there are a few. and the president's going to have to work hard, find points of pressure on those people. >> and willing to absorb some blows. >> remember when he ran against hillary clinton and beat her. hillary

get a different phenomenon. mitch mcconnell took a much harder line, and it really was he has a mandate for his failed policies. that is not what this election was about. anything that happens now has to meet the approval of the house republicans or it is not going anywhere. that i think is in many ways also a false bluster, because what we see going on in the senate is roiling change that mcconnell does not necessarily control, which is 48 senators from across the board working with the fix-the-debt coalition, and the business community to come up with a simpson-bowles template. there will not be a plan. >> what you see is the scenario? >> especially on the fiscal cliff? >> you will not see much difference between this on this. mort, i think it is impossible to write serious law during a lame duck that would constitute an agreement with any substance other than, and something set up behind them once again, to go into the fact if the next congress does not actually produce them. but the idea that they could do something that delivers on the promise of tax reform, which, when y

this morning to a couple of republicans who said some things, [inaudible] mitch mcconnell and leadership could not push for enough amendments for votes on amendments like marriage or repealing health care or guns. republicans will push hard. >> how about six weeks on contraception in the highway bill. is that a pretty good start? do you remember that? >> it looks like there are motions to proceed. do you have any changes -- plans to change the filibuster? >> you ask the question, i am answering it. the rules have been abused and we're going to work to change them. a're going to make the senate meaningful place and we will make it so we can get things done so people who want boats on what you mentioned, six marriage and abortion, the american people are interested in doing something about the staggering debt we have. the election was pretty clear in a number of ways. the president campaigned around the country saying we know what the problems are. we just need some revenue. that was the issue. the mandate was, look at the exit polls and the polling. the vast majority of the american people, ric

enough influence when you counter mitch mcconnell and others? does he have enough influence to bring in others in the party who agree? >> yes. i definitely think he does. he's considered a player. he brings to the table a very, very big demographic, which is his father's list. and that's a pretty powerful thing. and what you're going to have to watch for here is the mitch mcconnells of the world, he's somebody who is going to want to may play a little bit on immigration. he faces a primary challenge. so what you're going to see is some of these guys who maybe want to soften on immigration, getting some cover from some of the other guys who will get out there in front to try to protect them so they can win their next electio elections. >> you wrote about rank and file immigration reform yesterday. it caught my eye. it is interesting from the leaders of the party who are on the radio and television meaning like a sean hannity to actual elected officials within the gop who seem they want to speed up the process in hopes of two years from now having latino voters come to their side if im

. -- fort worth, texas. caller: president obama needs to draw a line in the sign and tell mitch mcconnell and john boehner -- they do not respect him. they do not respect him as a man. do not just give away anything. i used to pick cotton. he had to do with the man said. that is what the republican party wants obama to do. he can do anything, but he has to talk with the republican party first. host: matthew from louisiana, a republican caller. caller: good morning. i voted for mitt romney. the first time i ever voted for liberty, freedom, and the rights of our constitution. i have one thing from abraham lincoln i would like to read real quick. you cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. you cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. you could not help the poor man by destroying the rich. it cannot come into the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. you could not encourage by taking away initiative and independence. you could not help small men by tearing down big men. you cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. you cannot keep out of troub

out maybe one year ago. and mitch mcconnell buried it. he did not want the information known. the news report is out there. i am sure you can find it. but mitch mcconnell was the one that buried it in did not want that publicly known that it is a fallacy. i want to ask, especially you, mr. representative, the last two years since you people have taken over, you have barely showed up for work. we are paying your salary. i do not see not one of you put any skin in this game. you are sitting there, you do not even show up for work for half of the two years of taken over. we are paying your salary, paying your benefits. i do not see you putting in the skin in the game. my my husband has been a steel worker. he has to work 60-to-80 hours a week. this notion of the 47% not paying taxes, and entitlement, my husband has been paid in into his benefits for 40 years. host: we will have the congressman respond, but let me ask you a question, what you think of increase in the age of people qualifying for medicare or social security? caller: my husband has been a steelworker for 37 years. my husband

, mitch mcconnell says go right ahead. he is such a talented politician. he is so smart. in my opinion i think he has done everything he can do to prevent someone -- even if someone wanted to challenge him from the right he has done as much as he can do to keep them at bay. >> of course the other aspect of leadership transition in congress will be changes on the committees. your handy guy will offer lots of details. we should devote some of it to the question and answer period. i hope that you will not feel limited in trying to play stump the band and is us complicated questions about obscure subcommittees, but in general the macro narrative about these chairmanships is that the house republicans, way back in 1994 when they came out of the minority for the first time in 40 years, one of their reforms is to impose six-year term limits. they felt the old democratic system in place from the late 1950's through the early 1990's of seniority being paramount and these old white guys taking the gavels in their 50's and hanging on to them until their 70's was a bad idea. they imposed these limit

-- for mitch mcconnell because he is just so good at what he does. so intelligent and really does take along a nerve you of things. who knows why -- there was a lot of euphoria in the republican party in 2010, particularly this time two years ago. as i remember, there were magazine covers that were literally painted red. and people say things when they are feeling kind of goosey. >> and mitch mcconnell is so smart -- maybe he made an impolitic remark, and i don't know. but he is a man who rarely says anything he does not plan far ahead in saying. it could be -- and it is just me speculating, but knowing him i would say it could be also he was trying to put the president on notice that it was not going to be easy. if he wanted to get anything done, he was going to have to -- he wanted to stake out his ground, i guess, is my points. >> the way i always thought of mitch mcconnell -- and i have not spent much time in the scrums, waiting for every word for him to say something, but the way my mother would describe her father, a swedish immigrant, it was as if he is paying for his own words. that

. mitch mcconnell released this statement. i know some people think tuesday's results mean washington is going to roll over and agree to democratic demands that we hike tax rates. i'm here to tell them there's no truth to that notion. this is the stand off we have. i'm going to let you reset the table and all of you weigh in after this break. ing. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things that hang and shine... ...to the things that sparkle and jingle. all while saving the things that go in our wallet. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, get an assortment of martha stewart living ornamen,s free when you purchase select artificial trees. begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testostero

that was issued by mitch mcconnell, i personally found to be appalling. it was as if he hadn't taken any note of the election result whatsoever, and it spoke more of the continued intrans jens that have marked the last couple of years. in which direction is the gop going to go? the boehner path that's more con sill laer, let's get it done to avert a fiscal cliff or the mcconnell path. i hope it's the former and not the latter. >> you have boehner saying he's open to accept additional revenue. combine that on the other side with mcconnell as michael just pointed out and you have is there still a grover norquist impact, or has that evaporated or gone by the election? does that still exist, that pressure on republicans that sid signed in pledge. >> grover publicly stated that the american people did not vote for an increase in taxes. that they kept republicans in the house and the senate to stop any tax increases. so, of course, the pressure continues. john boehner is dealing tw two tensions. he's trying to explain to his conference they have to increase leverage. they don't want to see a middle

is the meaning of his election? what were voters saying? mitch mcconnell said this is not a mandate to continue the excesses' of your first term. john boehner seemed more open to the idea of allowing more revenue, the rate increases on fiscal cliff issue. i think the president, and i know his left wing, is certainly holding him to the pledge on the campaign trail that he will let the proper rate expire at the end of the year and intends to hold his own in arguing for that. host: margaret talev, that brings up the mandate question. does he say what george w. bush said, i have political capital and i intend to spend it? guest: if you have it, use it, or what other people say it for you. right now, president obama's game is not to come out of the box, acting takeda, and give republicans -- acting cocky and giving republicans an idea -- a reason to want to stick it to him. he is saying let's get this done. that is what he is serious about, there is no reason to set yourself up as having more leverage than you do. host: margaret talev, and the go to this headline in bloomberg. what does he do on his

mitch mcconnell was the number one obstructionist in the president's first term. now he tells "the wall street journal" he'll do whatever it takes to get a deal. i'd be willing to pay the ransom if e we thought we were going to get the hostage out. but the hostage is what? entitlement spending. mcconnell's intention, he's willing to agree to a dollar of new taxes for every dollar in cuts. what a difference an election makes. >> i'm going to ask a question on the stage. they seau had a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1. spending cuts to tax increases. spooker, you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? would you raise your hand about not raising taxes. >> remember in 2011 republicans would not take a 10 to 1 tax cut deal? now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they made a big gamble and came up empty handed. in 2011 president obama was cutting deals with john boehner on the golf course. it was very favorable for the republicans. the president agreed to more than $1.2 tr

, and specifically by republican leader there mitch mcconnell who really wanted today's photo-op with the three new republican senators in washington to be a he simple smile and shoot affair. it was not. >> every two years it's been the week na new senators come to town for orientation. i'm pleased to be here with our new members who have a couple of days here to get used to the way it gets started in the united states senate. >> there are only three new republican members of the u.s. senate this year. while there are eight new democrats and a new independent. so that alone is an uncomfortable position for mitch mcconnell and the three new senators forced into this horribly awkward photo-op today including one whose race is not necessarily settled in arizona where they are still counting. so it was awkward enough when mr. mcconnell thought reporters would stand there silently and take their picture after he gave those brief remarks. it got much, much worse when the reporters decided not to just take pictures. they were going to speak. >> the election is behind us, and we're ready to get started. th

.. already mitch mcconnell, john boehner and the posturing of with their corn to go. this summer, the grand bargain if they had some heavy debt reduction of revenue increases in taxes. the expiring borscht tax cuts that are on the table. the question is that john boehner is playing good cop and mitch mcconnell is plain bad cop. but they're not saying much different and what they have said from last summer. >> this is where the leadership passed to come into play were if there is corralling. and hurricane santee of the northern northeast corridor in now with another storm. what about that. there are two different sections that they have to do disaster relief for sandy to budget the money for fema and the second will be follow up. so there are not conditions on valley forge staten island. >> and also that administration. we are looking at the present administration. the secretary of state, and leon panetta is going to step down. treasury. and also he is leaving and commerce has been taken for a while. basically, in washington d.c. what most of the county is saying that what over 22. most of w

that are affected by them create the most jobs. now, senate republic leader mitch mcconnell says raises taxes on those businesses would cost 700,000 jobs. the president says we would simply return to the tax rates of the clinton years in which the economy created almost 8 times as many jobs as the administration of george w. bush. president will make his case to the public tomorrow and civic leaders on friday which is when these talks with congressional leaders come in. >> shepard: wendell goler on the north lawn. seven weeks isn't really seven weeks when you are talking about congress. lawmakers just got back to work today. then they are off next week for thanksgiving. then they will take a break for christmas and then time is up. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. one of the lawmakers back at work today congressman paul ryan. the republic vice presidential nominee. >> that's right, shep. paul ryan is expected to have a lot of clout after the elections. obviously a more recognizable name around the country. and he will continue on as the house budget chairman. ryan did not say a whole lot to r

. they met from senate republic leader mitch mcconnell who says they are ready to tackle difficult problems. house democratic leader nancy pelosi welcomed newly elected democrats to the house. they will be figuring out office assignments, learning house rules and ethics and how to set up congressional offices. the rookies in the house are at a dinner this evening. hosted by the speaker of the house, john boehner. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel live on capitol hill. just in to fox news from the o really file? the chief operating officer of the long island power authority or lipa is stepping down in the wake of super storm sandy. this comes on the same day an attorney filed a lawsuit against lipa claiming negligence in the aftermath. and the attorney is seeking class action status potentially including hundreds of thousands of long island customers who, in some cases have had no power for two weeks. the feds say only about 25,000 customers in the storm zone are still in the dark only. certainly a major improvement since just yesterday when the number was three times that. but today as the new

. and it is the guys in the beltway, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, the leaders reverses the guys outside the beltway. the guys in iowa, rick santorum, the folks in south carolina who gave the primary to newt gingrich. beyond that, i feel -- ever since george of the bush's second term, there has been an anti-establishment reaction within the republican party. they were embarrassed and angry with the bush administration. conservatism turned out to not be what they wanted. they wanted small government conservatism. i think everybody loves to many people into the tea party caldron. but you get the types that are determined to come here and do something against leadership. in ohio, he mentioned he likes the trappings of office, if you will. he mentioned to me, how much leadership can you exert? how much control can you exert over your own conference? given the freshmen. and he said to be, it is not the freshmen. he said it is some of the older members. he did not say who. i would have preferred if he did. that is those who are trying to have perfect scores on these ratings. they are the problem. because

's mark in akron, ohio. we want to show you the response by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, republican of kentucky, who writes -- host: lindsey shultz sent us this message on facebook and says she agrees -- host: back to the phones. jay in cincinnati, ohio, is on our line for those making between $100,000 and $250,000 a year. jay, you're on the "washington journal." caller: yes, yes, sir, thank you for taking my call. i just got a quick comment to make. being somewhere in the middle class, slightly hedging up towards the upper middle, basically what i'm saying is what would really help me is -- and i think a lot of people like the tax bracket -- we did the right thing before the recession, during the recession. i just feel that they lift some of the mandates and tax it on the poor and give you access to your money for, like, say two years, you're allowed to take money out without getting clobbered. i think that would inject a lot of money inside the economy very fast. there's a lot of people that's got money that's invested, can't take money out, that can use the money for

chairman, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, and other republican leaders behind the epic election failure of 2012 should be replaced with leaders more in tune with the conservative base of the republican party. likewise, established republican consultants establishedkarl rove, romney campaign senior advisers, and pollsters should never be hired to run or consult on a national campaign again. nobody would give a dime to the ineffective super pacs like american crossroads. the loss was the death rattle of the establishment republican party. the disaster of 2012 signals the beginning of the battle to take over the republican party and the opportunity to establish the gop as the party of small government, constitutional conservative. host: do you agree with that assessment? guest: not at all. k i do karl rove, the pollster for the romney campaign, and all the others he listed, the republican national chairman -- they are not the problem. the truth is, while i think the tea party is a great addition to the party, the candidates who were truly identified as tea party candidates in 2010 and 2012

the sound bites we just say, the video we saw was mitch mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate. he's up in 2014. he's got rand paul, a tea party guy, as his other republican senator in the state. mcconnell's worried about a challenge from the right to the point where he hired rand paul's campaign manager who was ron paul's campaign manager to be his mcconnell campaign manager coming up. so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good for the economy. there are people waiting to invest. there's a world watching. everybody agrees that if a deal can be cut, economies around the world, not just in america, are going to benefit. >> yeah. i think

? >> when i listen to senator boehner and mitch mcconnell yesterday, and when they sound somewhat willing to compromise, if you look behind what they're saying, they're not willing to compromise in any way that touches wealthy americans. because if you eliminate breaks, you're eliminating both the income tax rate and the capital gains rate and the dividend rate and the estate tax rate, then all you're dealing with are things like home mortgage deductions, eitc, child tax credit, preferences for your 401(k), all of the things that actually disproportionately affect middle-class americans and working americans, not the wealthy. so, they're really hiding behind this kind of rhetoric of let's deal with the preferences. but the preferences really don't touch the rich. >> so what is the solution that you would like to face? >> well, you know, i'm in line with the president that we need to deal with rates on the highest income americans. i'm not at all set on $250,000. i think that is a number that really is probably the wrong number. i had conversations with the white house. i don't know why th

completely unrelated? ashley judd, the actress rumored to be considering a bid for mitch mcconnell's senate seat in 2014. a fellow kentuckian. what do you think of that? >> i think it's an exciting prospect. i think what ashley would bring to the table would be, obviously celebrity. i think it would raise the profile of that race to -- it would become the most important race in the country in 2014. and what she can do, which a lot of other people can't do, is talk about a new vision for our commonwealth. and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied the issues, and is very, very smart. and she would get attention. >> i'm sure. >> i think it's exciting. >> defi

? the signs aren't clear. mitch mcconnell seemed to be saying no on tuesday, john boehner seemed to be saying possibly. so the issue is are they willing to move to the center on key issues? >> the books are being written but the chapters have yet to be lived out in a second obama term. ron suskin wrote in an op-ed for "the new york times" about whether obama can give the confidence americans need right now, focusing on legacy, which he goes on to say is the end game of the president and is often missing what's happened before his eyes. the great mishap of the first term is failing to direct. with a new president, a sky high approval rating, a sea of enthusiasts. with hindsight 2020, how will obama be different with legacy now in front of his mind? >> i actually think, in terms of legacy, he's going to have the legacy of bringing health care reform, which presidents have tried for a very long time, to fruition here in america, and he made a choice in doing that, and it probably was a choice that cost him some political capital because it came at the expense of some other things he might have d

to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing going on and i do think that this posturing is going to perhaps c

leader mitch mcconnell says he's ready to reach across the aisle. >> we are ready to find common ground on revenue. but we are also not about to further weaken the economy by raising tax rates and hurting jobs. bill: in 30 minutes, what would steve forbes do? martha: that's a question i always ask myself. in this situation, what would steve forbes do? pill * these are big, big issues and negotiations will go late into the night. we'll get steve's take coming up on that. martha: an investigation is underway after a small plane carrying three pilots crashed into a neighborhood. what witnesses heard and saw there. bill: there were serious questions about eric holder and the petraeus affair. why didn't he tell the white house any sooner? >> lawmakers want to know in terms of when petraeus found out. he was under investigation. has it had any impact on the comments he made to senators about benghazi and what he knew? we just learned general petraeus says he does want to testify about benghazi. more in a moment. >> you can't get to the bottom of benghazi without him testifying. i want to hear

with the great. but there's another factor to keep in mind for 2014 are among those who are up in 2014, mitch mcconnell, john cornyn, lindsey graham, saxby chambliss. now, if you're mitch mcconnell and we've been sitting there for years ago we would have had unanimity that niche was keening of the republican party in kentucky. and that was not even a contest for who was the utterly acknowledged leader. and we get to the 2010 elections and he put every resource he could to every attempt, every string he could pull to keep rand paul from winning the republican nomination. and failed mr. luther if your looking at this from mcconnell's perspective, knowing that several other republicans who ran for the senate this time would not promise going in that they would support mitch mcconnell, and you know that you have the potential for a primary challenge at portage and no longer controlled, your willingness to compromise on some of these critical issues may be itself compromised. if you're john cornyn, you would've stayed out of the race for the republican nomination for the senate this time around, but you sat

to be the number two under mitch mcconnell, and it looks -- and this is his second run. i mean, they picked up six seats in 2010. here he was expected to deliver the majority at the beginning of the cycle. obviously, you know, things turned against them. but i don't think that republicans were expecting the kind of rout that they saw on tuesday. and i think that's, you know, we were talking about republicans soul searching and what not, and this is part of it. i mean, we talked to one senator yesterday who said, look, we're going to be talking about a lot of different things and how to move forward, and leadership races are definitely a part of that. >> you can't beat somebody with nobody, so is there a name that's being floated? >> john thune, who's the current conference secretary, had told us for months that he may make a run for whip. he may stay in his current spot, or he may make a run for rnc chairman. i suspect he will decide to try to stick where he is right now, and certainly we were trying to get those games on the phone yesterday -- those guys on the phone yesterday, and they weren't t

term. >> oh, that goes to the archives. mitch mcconnell failed. last night was a victory against obstruction. instead, americans picked a president who wants to spend money on what?! infrastructure? what's that? roads, bridges, green energy, efficient buildings. you know, after a decade of bloodshed and combat abroad, americans re-elected a president who ended one war and is going to end another one. america voted for social change, for the first time in the nation's history, voters approved marriage equality measures. they did it in not just one state, but three states. and in minnesota, voters rejected a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. voters across the country are in line with the president of the united states when it comes to these equal rights. these equal rights. >> for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> so in the end, voters chose to move forward, not to go back to the failures of the past. on a number of different issues. it was a message that president obama und

. the should be enough to deny president obama a mandate. mitch mcconnell made a statement saying the voters have not endorsed the failures or successes, simply given him more time to finish the job they asked him to do, together with a congress that restored balance to washington after two years of one-party control. now, not so fast. the actual number of votes cast for house seats favored the democrats by a half a million votes. this is no man dade for house republicans, but of course they're trying to swing a big stick again. there's a reason. republicans were able to capture more house seats with a majority of the vote. for example, look at pennsylvania in 2008. take a good look. where is the red? a lot of blue district, right? take a look at pennsylvania in 2012. wow. what happened? there's a lot more red. it's because democratic districts have been jerry mandered into unwinnable seats. you know, those republicans are pretty slick. reliability blue districts in the southwestern and southeastern part of pennsylvania were combined into comfortable red districts. real clear politics report

to call john boehner and mitch mcconnell but he was told they were asleep, quote after his speech, mr. obama tried to call both mr. boehner and the senate republican leader, mr. mcconnell but was told they were asleep. i realized it was late night and everything but if the president calls you and you are asleep, do you not get woken up? isn't that sort of a standing order? one of the things we can all agree on the sort of thing you get out of bed for? the presidents an on the phone, okay, i'll wake up and take the phone no matter who you are? no. john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in a little bubble next to the man's name on a piece

a deal they are unhappy with? >> i don't think you'll see t t that. the key things to watch is mitch mcconnell knows how the house tea party republicans think about this. they are the ones that drove it to the bitter end. i don't think the democrats are going to give in immediately or any time. the notion that the rich are going to keep pressing and boehner was saying, i don't want to raise tax rates, but he seemed open to raise taxes in some way on the wealthy. there's definitely room here. i don't think we'll be in the situation we were two years ago where the debt creeling went on and no one was willing to compromise. >> i want to bring in chris van holen. everybody's parsing his wards. what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all

, except to mitch mcconnell. >> excuse me, you, mr. hoyer, mr. clyburn, you're all over 70. is it going to prohibit younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> i'm simply saying, does this -- >> i think that what you will see, and let's, for a moment, honor it as a legitimate question. although it's quite offensive. but you don't realize that, i guess. the fact is, the fact is, is that everything that i have done in my almost decade of leadership is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. in my own personal experience, it was very important for me to elect young women. i came to congress when my youngest child, alexandra, was a senior in high school, practically on her way to college. i knew that my male colleagues had come when they were 30. they had a jump on me, because they didn't have to -- i did what i wanted to do. i was blessed to have that opportunity, to sequentially raise my family and then come to congress. but i wanted women to be here in greater numbers at an earlier age so that their seniority would start to acc

in mind for 2014. among those that are up in 2014, mitch mcconnell, john cornyn, lindsey graham, saxby chambliss if we were sitting here four years ago we would have unanimity that he was the king of the republican party in kentucky and there wasn't even a contest for who was the elder li acknowledged leader, then we get to the 2010 elections and he put every resource that he could come every attempt come every string he could pull to keep rand paul from running and winning miserably. if you look at this from mccaul's perspectives note that several of the republicans that ran for the senate this time wouldn't promise going in that they would support mitch mcconnell. and you know that you have the potential for a primary challenge in a party that you no longer control. your willingness to compromise on some of these critical issues may be itself compromised. if you are john cornyn, you would have stayed out of the race for the republican nomination for the senate this time around but you sat back and watched as the conservative and powerful lieutenant governor, the most powerful togethe

, mitch mcconnell. they have not been able to reach a deal. will they be able to move forward now? they were saying some nice things yesterday, both harry reid and john boehner. actions speak louder than words. there are many obstacles what they can do in the main -- the lame duck. host: we covered both yesterday at a news conference. let me begin with the speaker was talking about the fiscal clef and really what it comes down to is tax cuts and whether you let them expire. [video clip] >> real economic growth eluded us in the first term of this president. without it, we cannot solve the debt problem. for the purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement, we are willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. what matters is where the increased revenue comes from and what type of reform comes with it. does the increased revenue come from government taking a larger share of what the american people learned through higher tax rates, or does it come as a buy part -- byproduct of growing the economy energized by a simpler, fairer tax code with your loopholes and lower rates for

direction to go. if jim demint ends up taking a leadership job in this republican party, or mitch mcconnell stays there, the way mitch mcconnell is talking right now, i think it means they haven't learned these lessons and aiming at something other than a majority. they're aiming at something else. >> that used to be, to take that job, running the party campaign committee is a career-making step in washington. and i think there was a report today, supposedly, marco rubio was being talked about, to run the committee for the republicans in the next cycle, that has no interest in doing it. you can't recruit candidates and say, we're going to put our support behind you. they're going to still lose the primary. >> it's a lose/lose situation in terms of those internal dynamics. steve kornacki, ow also seem very spry today, like ed. >> lots of caffeine. i'm going to crash this weekend. >> i understand. all right. thanks, steve. >>> all right, so, how did the unfortunate comments about rape caucus do in last night's elections? surprisingly poorly. that very cheery story is coming up next. so you sa

of the deal on the debt ceiling last year. >> it came out of mitch mcconnell's office. harry reid went along with it. mcconnell voted for it. john mccain who is a big critic of the defense part of the sequester, it was he voted for it. paul ryan voted for it. so you know, i'm not saying democrats are blameless here or don't deserve some of the responsibility but the idea that republicans are washing their hands and saying this is a white house ploy is completely wrong. >> bill: i was at the white house friday when president obama came into the east room and made a very short speech. very clear about what his plan is and what he wanted. here's the president with one challenge to members of congress. >> obama: i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> bill: what does he mean by that? >> balanced. he's saying first of all it's not just spending cuts. it has to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the j

regrated. >> rose: do you think the republicans are open to that idea? john boehner and mitch mcconnell. >> i've got to believe after this election they have to be open to that they have responsibilities beyond being political leaders and mitch mcconnell defined much of the last four years by saying his number one goal was to defeat barack obama. okay, that didn't work and now barack obama isn't going to run again so maybe hll co up with another priority like let's get some things done. and i think if he does take that position -- but it will take enormous compromises also by democrats to get things done because this is a big hole we've dug ourselves in. >> rose: do you think -- will the president be different these four years because of, a, things he learned in the first four and b, he does not have to run for reelection again? >> i think not having to run for reelection does give a certain freedom. no question about it. on the other hand, we all do live within the confines of reality and he is in a very political town with a majority of the house republicans-- which was what he had th

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